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BSOD 1000007e and poor performance
#21
(03-21-2017, 08:09 PM)total Wrote: Windows Updates - hm. I've been using an image with integrated updates, there's a man on oszone.net that creates packages that contain all updates for W7SP1 and I integrated the package into the genuine ISO image so that I didn't need to download and install updates 1 by 1. I always keep away from all updates that were reported as containing telemetry, and the last package from him that I used was the one released in autumn of 2016, so I guess it's always the same bunch of updates I use.
Mhh.. if you check windows update now, does it show anything additional for your computer?

(03-21-2017, 08:09 PM)total Wrote: I might be wrong, but only my CPU temps were always the problem. It goes up to 85° during running the CS:GO benchmark even now, in spring, and in summer it simply throttles if I don't switch it to "cold mode" with HP CoolSense, which lowers the CPU frequencies and uses the fan heavier.
Dafaq?
To avoid throttling.. You manually downclock it? What's the point?

And with one of those shoddy OEM applications? Can't you use something like speedfan to manually set fans to 100% in the first place?
(03-21-2017, 08:09 PM)total Wrote: I install only RTSS, it's downloadable separately from guru3d. After I start RTSS and its icon appears in the tray, fps in CS:GO decrease from 88 to 82.
Mhh.. what if you manually put "show OSD" on OFF, and/or application detection level for cs:go to none?

(03-21-2017, 08:09 PM)total Wrote: Update: I uninstalled CCC 14.8 and installed \CCC2 built in the last UnifL package, then linked everything shown in the switch menu to dGPU
Really, I'd keep this affair for the other thread. This one is already a clusterfuck.

(03-21-2017, 08:09 PM)total Wrote: And still it uses less RAM than W7 somehow.
Somehow this.
The only fact you are sold with cortana, onedrive and ads enabled by default and hardly removable should dismay you.

(03-21-2017, 08:09 PM)total Wrote: I hate W10 and AMD.
Speaking of which.. Did you ever tried linux? CS:GO is even native.

(03-21-2017, 08:09 PM)total Wrote: I don't know how it chooses the frequencies, I do know though that e.g. in cold mode the initial CPU frequency is showed as 90.2% in CS:GO on Windows 7, while on Windows 10 it's always 89,6% or something, i.e. slightly lower, I guess it applies overall to the CPU frequencies in any modes.
I.e. identical for as long as random noise is still a thing in this world.

In other news, it seems like turbo boost 2.0 with its latent "thermal headroom" could skew a lot of the shortest benchmarks.
Monitoring cpu clock and gpu usage seems key to the solution.

(03-21-2017, 08:09 PM)total Wrote: I don't know how many times it can be flashed before starting to lose data (I'm sure it has its limit of writing data), so I decided to keep away from it forever.
No, EEPROM hasn't.

Besides, I'm not sure why if you did 10, you couldn't do 11. Then left it there forever, never touching igp settings.

(03-21-2017, 08:09 PM)total Wrote: P.S. The screen still tears somewhere in the middle when a POV camera moves in CS:GO, I'm sure in fixed mode there is no tearing at all.
I doubt this.
Aren't you running the game with v-sync off in both cases after all?

(03-21-2017, 08:09 PM)total Wrote: P.P.S. With 14.8 3DMark Sky Diver crashes after the end of each test (I tried them 1 by 1), it only works with 13.1 and also with those strange mixed 16.X drivers
And how does this last compare for the remainder?
Because once we settle down mysteries of the fixed-dynamic-13.1-14.8 switch, that's what I'd aim.
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Well, today I installed Windows 7 from scratch again, and this time I used my usual driver installation order - chipset first, everything else - after it, I also installed BT, printer, scanner drivers, though I used a different approach to installing Wifi driver - I did it via device manager, so that there were no additional background HP/WiFi apps installed. And I'm still keeping away from those HP sensors drivers like I usual do.
So, 14.8+unlocked CCC works the same, I mean, I have the same fps in CS:GO like I did yesterday, so it's not all about drivers installation order. As far as I remember, after I used to install the HP-prepared Wifi drivers, there were some background apps concerning WiFi, it's not for sure though, so those apps might cause that ~7% performance drop. Or something else did it, I don't know.

(03-21-2017, 09:06 PM)mirh Wrote: if you check windows update now, does it show anything additional for your computer?
There's nothing new, it shows only the telemetry updates that I never install, and 3 drivers - for Wifi, validity sensor and mobile data protection sensor. Hm, it doesn't show the AMD driver for a reason, although I believe it always tried to sell me that last WHQL driver for legacy cards in the past. May be they removed it?..

(03-21-2017, 09:06 PM)mirh Wrote: To avoid throttling.. You manually downclock it? What's the point?
Lower clocks - lower heat obviously.
I guess only expensive gaming laptops have good coolers, my laptop is just a regular Pavilion one, yeah, with i7 and HD 6770M, and it costed ~1000$ when I bought it, but it means nothing in the end, and its cooling system just isn't good enough. I remember there was Lenovo Y570 I guess, which costed the same and had a worse GPU (GeForce 555M), and you know what? Lenovo disabled Turbo Boost at all to avoid throttling. Thanks God HP didn't disable anything...

(03-21-2017, 09:06 PM)mirh Wrote: Can't you use something like speedfan to manually set fans to 100% in the first place?
Pretty much nothing really works on my laptop when it comes to manual fan speed control.

Here is your speedfan:

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I found another program: Notebook Fan Control, but its configurations don't let me set it to 100% for real, the max speed I managed to set was like 74% (when I chose 100% in fact), and I've NO IDEA how to edit its configs correctly, there are a bunch of settings that I don't understand, without changing them it's not possible to set it to 100%. I tried to change the fan speed in every config to 100% but it didn't work out.

(03-21-2017, 09:06 PM)mirh Wrote: The only fact you are sold with cortana, onedrive and ads enabled by default and hardly removable should dismay you.
There's a guy that knows pretty much everything about disabling that stuff, and I did it with his huge BAT file. W10 consumed 18% of RAM and W7 consumes 22+%. Actually I'd have liked to stick to W10, because it usually runs faster and apps start faster, but my hybrid graphics always mess everything up.

(03-21-2017, 09:06 PM)mirh Wrote: Did you ever tried linux? CS:GO is even native.
I was about to switch to linux, I even installed CS:GO dedicated servers on OpenSUSE (VMware Workstation) so I knew a bit how it worked, I though it would be nice to install Linux Mint as it was closest to Windows in terms of its appearance and it didn't have UBUNTU's spying stuff, but in the end I found an info that mouse acceleration is really hard/impossible to turn off on linux, and since there are no linux drivers for my gaming mouse at all, and I'd need to also set its sensor resolution (it has a sh*tton of different modes that are configurable only through its drivers), I decided to stick to Windows.

(03-21-2017, 09:06 PM)mirh Wrote: Aren't you running the game with v-sync off in both cases after all?
I've never used vsync since 1.6 times, because it always caused a very annoying mouse cursor bug when crosshair moved like swimming underwater, I don't know how to describe it better, and I needed to disable vsync in GPU driver menu.

(03-21-2017, 09:06 PM)mirh Wrote: once we settle down mysteries of the fixed-dynamic-13.1-14.8 switch, that's what I'd aim.
I removed 16.X because its performance was the same as it was with any drivers newer than 14.8 (3 fps instead of 8 in smoke). So, even though it can run Sky Diver, its performance suxx anyway.
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(03-22-2017, 05:17 PM)total Wrote: So, 14.8+unlocked CCC works the same, I mean, I have the same fps in CS:GO like I did yesterday, so it's not all about drivers installation order. As far as I remember, after I used to install the HP-prepared Wifi drivers, there were some background apps concerning WiFi, it's not for sure though, so those apps might cause that ~7% performance drop. Or something else did it, I don't know.
Well, for science you might want to also install the remainder bloatware and see.

(03-22-2017, 05:17 PM)total Wrote: There's nothing new, it shows only the telemetry updates that I never install, and 3 drivers - for Wifi, validity sensor and mobile data protection sensor. Hm, it doesn't show the AMD driver for a reason, although I believe it always tried to sell me that last WHQL driver for legacy cards in the past. May be they removed it?..
So strange.
How many time had you kept your previous ["problematic"] installation?

OT protip: you can at any time download WU drivers (and sometimes also benefit of "officially" w8/10-only ones) from MS catalog. Then unpack them and install from device manager as slim&light as you deem

(03-22-2017, 05:17 PM)total Wrote: Lower clocks - lower heat obviously.
I guess only expensive gaming laptops have good coolers, my laptop is just a regular Pavilion one, yeah, with i7 and HD 6770M, and it costed ~1000$ when I bought it, but it means nothing in the end, and its cooling system just isn't good enough. I remember there was Lenovo Y570 I guess, which costed the same and had a worse GPU (GeForce 555M), and you know what? Lenovo disabled Turbo Boost at all to avoid throttling.
Tbh it makes even less sense to disable a feature that only exploit thermal free margin.. As if that gave you more.
EDIT: wtf?

Anyway, the point is: throttling would already take care of lowering clocks when heat is too much.
Given heat transfer increase with temperature gradient, unless you think Intel's decisions should have been more conservative, I'm not sure about your point.

Undervolting on the other hand.. That would really be a marvelous trick. Also these ideas.

(03-22-2017, 05:17 PM)total Wrote: I found another program: Notebook Fan Control, but its configurations don't let me set it to 100% for real, the max speed I managed to set was like 74% (when I chose 100% in fact), and I've NO IDEA how to edit its configs correctly, there are a bunch of settings that I don't understand, without changing them it's not possible to set it to 100%. I tried to change the fan speed in every config to 100% but it didn't work out.
Oh god.
That's so.. Such a beautiful program! I'm delighted something like this is open-source and actively developed for once.

Your problem is very likely due to every goddamn laptop having its own "wires" then.
But if you check its manual and wiki, finding the right path is almost a cakewalk imo.

EDIT: in other news, the reason why speedfan reports no fan.. Is that laptops seemingly haven't them hooked to a [dedicated?] Performance Monitoring Unit like desktops (or the standard 4-pin bus thingy I guess?), but they have everything embedded in bios/EC (which I guess might make some sense once you think that for a single fan to keep under control cpu, gpu, mems and w/e you need a controller with access to a lot of information)

(03-22-2017, 05:17 PM)total Wrote: There's a guy that knows pretty much everything about disabling that stuff, and I did it with his huge BAT file. W10 consumed 18% of RAM and W7 consumes 22+%.
We weren't talking about ram usage, 'member?
I brought up the point "background services are totally in the wild on W10" to imply random resources "stealing" shouldn't come as a surprise.

My list wasn't supposed to be comprehensive then, and R-E-A-L-L-Y, I can tell you everything can randomly start to fuck up.
Something that for the first time in years of problem solving I couldn't for the love of me figure out.

(03-22-2017, 05:17 PM)total Wrote: Actually I'd have liked to stick to W10, because it usually runs faster and apps start faster, but my hybrid graphics always mess everything up.
Your call then, I won't argue with that.
Of course though, steps are better made one at time.

(03-22-2017, 05:17 PM)total Wrote: I though it would be nice to install Linux Mint as it was closest to Windows in terms of its appearance and it didn't have UBUNTU's spying stuff, but in the end I found an info that mouse acceleration is really hard/impossible to turn off on linux, and since there are no linux drivers for my gaming mouse at all, and I'd need to also set its sensor resolution (it has a sh*tton of different modes that are configurable only through its drivers), I decided to stick to Windows.
Well, I won't blame you.
Though, acceleration issue should be a thing of the past, many high-end mouse have utilities.. And imo non-rolling release distros are so last century.

(03-22-2017, 05:17 PM)total Wrote: I've never used vsync since 1.6 times, because it always caused a very annoying mouse cursor bug when crosshair moved like swimming underwater, I don't know how to describe it better, and I needed to disable vsync in GPU driver menu.
Indeed. So I cannot see (assuming framerate parity) how tearing could be any different.

(03-22-2017, 05:17 PM)total Wrote: I removed 16.X because its performance was the same as it was with any drivers newer than 14.8 (3 fps instead of 8 in smoke). So, even though it can run Sky Diver, its performance suxx anyway.
Oh, right.
So... Aside of knowing 14.9 was a quite ailing release, that we should possible start to call the thing "14.300 branch" and that.. Something funny is going on indeed between intel and amd's drivers expectations..
Let's say I'm quite out of ideas.

So.. Perhaps finding what was the previous problem in the first place couldn't hurt to help our hindsight.
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(03-22-2017, 10:55 PM)mirh Wrote: How many time had you kept your previous ["problematic"] installation?
For 4-5 months.

(03-22-2017, 10:55 PM)mirh Wrote: sometimes also benefit of "officially" w8/10-only ones
Is there any way to trick Windows 7 and force it to install the latest (4459 that's absent on intel.com) Intel HD 3000 driver?
When I try it, it says that nothing is found for my device. I mean, how to edit its INF file or something?

(03-22-2017, 10:55 PM)mirh Wrote: throttling would already take care of lowering clocks when heat is too much
I thought it was obvious.
I do NOT want my CPU to operate at temperatures higher than 80-85° to not fry it, and you're telling me to rely on throttling, meaning it will constantly heat to 90-95° and throttle only when it comes to 100° (when I played CS:GO in summer, it throttled like every 3-5 minutes, and even now it heats up to 88°!). Do you really want me to lose my laptop as soon as possible? I have nothing to replace it with.

(03-22-2017, 10:55 PM)mirh Wrote: But if you check its manual and wiki, finding the right path is almost a cakewalk imo.
No it's not.
Looks like the fan has 5 modes: 30% (silent), 56%, 74%, 84%, 100% (the loudest).
I have some monitoring (-t 8 -i 1) reports and dumps from each mode:

Code:
0x04: 01,01,01,01,00,01,01,01
0x05: FF,FE,FF,FE,FF,FF,FF,FF
0x06: 41,42,42,41,41,41,43,42
0xE5: 28,28,26,25,27,27,26,2F

00: 00 00 00 00 00 FE 41 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
10: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 5D 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
20: FF FF FF FF FF FF 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
30: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
40: 83 03 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 70 00 00 1E 1E
50: 64 78 78 00 00 02 00 00 00 01 00 00 00 00 00 00
60: 00 00 61 63 00 FF 41 02 21 00 24 1E 5E 24 00 23
70: 00 00 00 00 00 00 01 C2 00 00 00 00 01 68 10 31
80: 00 00 2C 33 09 00 00 00 00 FF FF 00 00 FF FF 00
90: 00 00 00 00 00 FF FF 00 00 00 00 00 00 FF FF 00
A0: 00 FF FF 00 00 FF FF 00 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
B0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
C0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 FF FF 00 00 00 00 00
D0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
E0: 00 63 5F 50 5F 26 01 00 00 00 00 FF 00 00 00 00
F0: 00 00 00 01 00 11 11 08 00 62 00 00 00 00 00 1E

Code:
0x04: 01,00,00,02,00,01,00,02
0x05: FF,FF,FF,FE,FE,FF,FE,FF
0x06: 43,42,41,41,42,42,40,40
0x4B: 70,70,70,70,70,30,70,70
0x6A: 2A,2A,2A,2B,2A,2B,2B,2A
0x6D: 2A,2A,2A,2B,2A,2B,2B,2A
0x6F: 3C,3C,3C,3C,3C,3C,37,37
0x99: 00,00,00,00,00,00,90,00
0xE5: 34,30,30,2F,2F,2E,2E,2E

00: 00 00 00 00 01 FF 42 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
10: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 5D 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
20: FF FF FF FF FF FF 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
30: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
40: 83 03 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 70 00 00 1E 1E
50: 64 78 78 00 00 02 00 00 00 01 00 00 00 00 00 00
60: 00 00 61 63 00 FF 41 02 26 00 2A 38 5E 2A 00 37
70: 00 00 00 00 00 00 01 C2 00 00 00 00 01 68 10 31
80: 00 00 2C 33 09 00 00 00 00 FF FF 00 00 FF FF 00
90: 00 00 00 00 00 FF FF 00 00 00 00 00 00 FF FF 00
A0: 00 FF FF 00 00 FF FF 00 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
B0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
C0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 FF FF 00 00 00 00 00
D0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
E0: 00 63 5F 50 5F 2F 01 00 00 00 00 FF 00 00 00 00
F0: 00 00 00 01 00 11 11 0E 00 62 00 00 00 00 00 38

Code:
0x04: 00,01,01,01,00,00,01,00
0x05: FF,FF,FE,FE,FF,FE,FF,FF
0x06: 41,42,41,42,42,41,42,41
0x6F: 46,46,46,46,46,46,47,47
0xE5: 48,48,47,48,48,48,48,48

00: 00 00 00 00 01 FF 43 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
10: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 5D 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
20: FF FF FF FF FF FF 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
30: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
40: 83 03 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 70 00 00 1E 1E
50: 64 78 78 00 00 02 00 00 00 01 00 00 00 00 00 00
60: 00 00 61 63 00 FF 41 02 2D 00 30 4A 5E 30 00 47
70: 00 00 00 00 00 00 01 C2 00 00 00 00 01 68 10 31
80: 00 00 2C 33 09 00 00 00 00 FF FF 00 00 FF FF 00
90: 00 00 00 00 00 FF FF 00 00 00 00 00 00 FF FF 00
A0: 00 FF FF 00 00 FF FF 00 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
B0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
C0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 FF FF 00 00 00 00 00
D0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
E0: 00 63 5F 50 5F 48 01 00 00 00 00 FF 00 00 00 00
F0: 00 00 00 01 00 11 11 11 00 62 00 00 00 00 00 4A

Code:
0x04: 00,01,01,01,01,01,00,00
0x05: FE,FF,FE,FF,FF,FE,FF,FF
0x06: 41,42,41,43,41,42,43,43
0x4B: 70,70,70,70,70,70,90,70
0x68: 2F,2F,2F,30,30,30,30,30
0x6A: 32,32,32,32,32,32,33,33
0x6D: 32,32,32,32,32,32,33,33
0x6F: 4F,4F,4F,4F,4F,51,51,51
0xE5: 51,52,52,52,53,52,53,51

00: 00 00 00 00 00 FF 41 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
10: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 5D 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
20: FF FF FF FF FF FF 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
30: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
40: 83 03 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 70 00 00 1E 1E
50: 64 78 78 00 00 02 00 00 00 01 00 00 00 00 00 00
60: 00 00 61 63 00 FF 41 02 30 00 33 54 5E 33 00 51
70: 00 00 00 00 00 00 01 C2 00 00 00 00 01 68 10 31
80: 00 00 2C 33 09 00 00 00 00 FF FF 00 00 FF FF 00
90: 00 00 00 00 00 FF FF 00 00 00 00 00 00 FF FF 00
A0: 00 FF FF 00 00 FF FF 00 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
B0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
C0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 FF FF 00 00 00 00 00
D0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
E0: 00 63 5F 50 5F 4E 01 00 00 00 00 FF 00 00 00 00
F0: 00 00 00 01 00 11 11 13 00 62 00 00 00 00 00 54

Code:
0x04: 01,00,00,01,00,01,01,01
0x05: FE,FF,FF,FE,FF,FE,FE,FF
0x06: 43,43,43,42,43,41,42,42
0x68: 3C,3C,3C,3C,3C,3C,3B,3B
0xF7: 16,16,16,16,16,15,16,16

00: 00 00 00 00 01 FD 42 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
10: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 5D 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
20: FF FF FF FF FF FF 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
30: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
40: 83 03 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 70 00 00 1E 1E
50: 64 78 78 00 00 02 00 00 00 01 00 00 00 00 00 00
60: 00 00 61 63 00 FF 41 02 3B 00 3C 64 5E 3C 00 56
70: 00 00 00 00 00 00 01 C2 00 00 00 00 01 68 10 31
80: 00 00 2C 33 09 00 00 00 00 FF FF 00 00 FF FF 00
90: 00 00 00 00 00 FF FF 00 00 00 00 00 00 FF FF 00
A0: 00 FF FF 00 00 FF FF 00 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
B0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
C0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 FF FF 00 00 00 00 00
D0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
E0: 00 63 5F 50 5F 55 01 00 00 00 00 FF 00 00 00 00
F0: 00 00 00 01 00 11 11 16 00 62 00 00 00 00 00 64

You know, for me it's just a bunch of digits and letters with no use.
Among the values that change only after the fan speed changes and remain the same till the mode is changed are only 2: 107 and 255, their values can be 1E, 38, 4A, 54, 64. I tried to write to these registers, but they don't change manually.

(03-22-2017, 10:55 PM)mirh Wrote: We weren't talking about ram usage, 'member?
You were talking about cloudgate, ads and something, and I said that all those are pretty easy to disable, and that W10 to me felt like significantly faster OS than W7, at least in terms of loading apps speed and loading web pages (in the same browsers as on W7) speed. If it wasn't for this stupid intel+amd hybrid sh*t, I'd already switch to W10.

(03-22-2017, 10:55 PM)mirh Wrote: Indeed. So I cannot see (assuming framerate parity) how tearing could be any different.
I said that it might be tearing problem that made me feel it was laggy as F, but it might be something else, I don't know.
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(03-23-2017, 05:56 PM)total Wrote: Is there any way to trick Windows 7 and force it to install the latest (4459 that's absent on intel.com) Intel HD 3000 driver?
When I try it, it says that nothing is found for my device. I mean, how to edit its INF file or something?
Yeah, I was going to tell you that.
But then I noticed there's no difference with 4229 ones, aside of dates and meaningless FeatureScore.
Assuming of course you were trying to do this in device manager.. It's really strange. Perhaps intel duped everything below WDDM 1.2? I dunno, perhaps trying these steps (with 7 obv) or installing 8.1 altogether might show something.

Also, I'm not sure why stuff otherwise identical in "cab" sub-folder has a different countersignature than the one in root one. But whatever.
(03-23-2017, 05:56 PM)total Wrote: I do NOT want my CPU to operate at temperatures higher than 80-85° to not fry it, and you're telling me to rely on throttling, meaning it will constantly heat to 90-95° and throttle only when it comes to 100° (when I played CS:GO in summer, it throttled like every 3-5 minutes, and even now it heats up to 88°!).
Uh, really?
I thought throttling kicked in way earlier than that. It shouldn't be that hard to configure from windows own power options then.

What thermal zone values do you have btw?
(03-23-2017, 05:56 PM)total Wrote: Looks like the fan has 5 modes: 30% (silent), 56%, 74%, 84%, 100% (the loudest).
I have some monitoring (-t 8 -i 1) reports and dumps from each mode:

You know, for me it's just a bunch of digits and letters with no use.
Among the values that change only after the fan speed changes and remain the same till the mode is changed are only 2: 107 and 255, their values can be 1E, 38, 4A, 54, 64. I tried to write to these registers, but they don't change manually.
Mhh, I dunno. When I randomly compared your values these seemed to differ.

Anyway, I checked your DSDT table (the hardest part was figuring out some way to extract it rom bios).
It's almost dumb how little its _TZ scope is. But even if there's no fancy "write" mechanism on the ACPI part, you can clearly see it queries FAT, FST, HOT, CRT and PAE from \_SB.PCI0.LPCB.EC.
All stuff whose precise offset is defined around line 2208.

Hope this can help.

If you were on linux it would be even easier with the AML debugger that can directly retrieve fields values (immediately comparable with those in EC registers).
EDIT: possible datasheet

EDIT2: sooo.. I was trying to configure my laptop. And indeed it seems harder than expected.
I found the temperature register though (which is pretty easy to spot since its value can be easily known with other tools): writing to its register with RW utility briefly makes fan spins faster. So this means I can just follow backwards its field name in DSDT table, to ultimately arrive to fan location.

EDIT3: After some wandering on spec, the procedure seems as simple as finding the last Offset reference whose value is still precedent to the one of the register I want the name. Then just open a Calc document, paste all the entries below and SUM the bit length of each one with the one of the previous. When this number is equal to "InterestedRegister - AforementionedOffset", you know the next entry is bingo!.

EDIT4: Unfortunately, once I follow the thing (called CTMP in my case), I reach a dead end once its derivatives get sent to SystemMemory OperationRegion (which I dunno where to map)
EDIT5: ok, screw ACPI. In the meantime, you may want to ping a very helpful dev here

(03-23-2017, 05:56 PM)total Wrote: You were talking about cloudgate, ads and something, and I said that all those are pretty easy to disable, and that W10 to me felt like significantly faster OS than W7, at least in terms of loading apps speed and loading web pages (in the same browsers as on W7) speed. If it wasn't for this stupid intel+amd hybrid sh*t, I'd already switch to W10.
I brought up all that stuff not per se, but as examples of the way microsoft handles things.
What you say for browsing might even be true (for as much it may even be attributed to one of the thousands quirks browser have, and really doesn't fit my pov where a Vista C2D desktop feels light years faster than a W10 i7 skylake laptop), but gaming is not only "extensive" (like "real-world usage"), but also intensive (meaning: every single drop of everything matters).

Moreover, it seems even weirder, given the many bugs and omissions SB is reported to have there.

(03-23-2017, 05:56 PM)total Wrote: I said that it might be tearing problem that made me feel it was laggy as F, but it might be something else, I don't know.
Tearing has no connection with lag.
If not in the indirect measure that slightly different "frames update rates" (for example, from say 55 to 50) can put your monitor on an uncanny valley (as you can see with the compare tool here)

EDIT: you have like a double double post in the previous thread page
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Pokes head out of the gutter

If you know the part of EC to poke to set a temp, why not script RWEverything to repeatedly set that value to what you want? Easy fan control.
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Notebook Fan Control turned out being useless. The thing that I thought was actual fan control, in fact was changing values of the registers 90 (mobile mode) and 91 (stationary mode), it's the same as HP CoolSense does - when it's in its default state, it's set to 0, when it's in the "Silent" mode, it changes to 2, when in the "Cool" mode - it's set to 1.
The sad part is that I can't control the fan even via BIOS, I tried to set the lowest possible temperatures for the highest fan speed, but it works exactly the same, so I can't just increase a fan speed, I only can set that stupid CoolSense to the coolest mode which not only increases the fan speed but also turns off Turbo Boost which sucks a lot and reduces performance by 18%.

P.S. All my switchable graphics troubles seem like gone, because it looks like I lost my discrete GPU. I installed the well-known BSODing piece of sh** 14.4 to get the maximum possible framerate in CS:GO, I played CS:GO several times but when I ran CS:GO for the last time, I connected to a game server and in several minutes everything froze, I could not reboot using Ctrl+Alt+Del so I turned the laptop off and then turned it on, Windows showed its desktop but there were some graphic artifacts (blinking colorful lines) on my screen, in a minute or two everything got stuck again and then I could not make Windows load anymore, even in safe mode, but then Windows finally managed to load in safe mode, I removed all graphics drivers with DDU & Driver Fusion, the Intel GPU works when only its drivers are installed, but if I install any Radeon drivers (12.3, 14.4, 14.8) after it, I only get a black screen and Windows deadly freezes again. The Radeon card is still visible in device manager and GPU-Z, but that's it. 6 years and almost 3 months is not that bad for an almost gaming GPU in a regular 1k USD worth laptop, is it?..
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